You’re In Ukraine, So Don’t You Dare Speak Russian To Me

It was a chilly midsummer’s morning as I exited the sterile train station and found myself in the country where I was born but never returned to in more than twenty-two years: Ukraine.

I was in the city of Lvov (Lviv in Ukrainian), arguably the most scenic of all Ukrainian cities. Lvov doesn’t look much like the rest of Ukraine – it’s clean, lacks the Communist-era housing blocks, and has more of a Central European feel. In fact, you’d be hard-pressed to distinguish it from the Polish towns across the border, not far away.

After taking a shower and freshening up, I sent my friend, who was in Kiev, a quick text notifying him that I was already in Lvov and would be in Kiev soon. He welcomed me to Ukraine and, not wanting me to spend my time alone, mentioned that he might know someone in Lvov to show me around.

I went out for a scroll to the main park not far from the hotel. I took in the fresh Ukrainian air, looked at families enjoying a beautiful summer’s day, and felt completely at ease.

And what an ecstatic feeling it was.

After visiting over fifty-five countries and trying very hard to blend in as a local by living in six more, I was ready to just enjoy myself in the country of my birth.

There was no need to learn a new culture, a new language, and new customs. I can just be myself for the first time in many years. Or so I thought.

An hour into my leisurely stroll, I received a text message. It was Andrei, my buddy’s friend. He was born and raised here, and had time to meet me and show me around for few hours.

We arranged to meet in front of a well-known monument, a statue dedicated to an important Ukrainian writer, Taras Shevchenko.

Andrei, who was 24 years old, was already waiting for me when I arrived.

I went up to him and greeted him in Russian. Andrei studied me carefully before finally responding in Ukrainian.

This was the first time in my life that I heard the Ukrainian language.

I shrugged and told him that I don’t speak Ukrainian and didn’t understand what he said.

And that’s where the problems began.

But, first, allow me to give you a little introduction to my country.

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When Ukraine was incorporated into Soviet Union, Russian language became the main language in all spheres of public life. Russian became a prerequisite for admission to higher education and better job occupations. It was also made a compulsory subject in all Ukrainian schools.

Ukrainian language, like all primary languages of the republics, was relegated to a secondary status. After Soviet Union collapsed, former republics became independent countries and their own languages became official again: Lithuanian became the official language of Lithuania; Latvian in Latvia; and, unsurprisingly, Estonian in Estonia.

In Ukraine, however, things weren’t so simple.

Because Ukraine was heavily Russified, Russian is still – even today — the de facto language in all major cities. Russian is spoken everywhere: in restaurants, stores, businesses, even inside homes. Aside from a minor accent, you’d be hard pressed to realize that you’re not in Russia, but in another country with its own official language.

Take me, for example: even though I was born in Ukraine, in the region where I was born Russian was the only spoken language. In many ways I’m more Russian than Ukrainian: I read Dostoyevsky instead of Shevchenko, and enjoy Russian TV more than Ukrainian.

During my stay in Kiev the only times I heard Ukrainian was when they announced the next stop on the metro; the people on the trains always spoke in Russian.

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“I’m Ukrainian and don’t want to speak the language of the enemy,” Andrei condescendingly answered in English.

I knew that he — like everyone else in Ukraine — spoke fluent Russian, but it seemed that avoiding the language of “the enemy” was more important than effortless communication with another Ukrainian.

Also, like all Ukrainians, his English was poor but bearable. In order to be understood, I had to slow down my speech and use simple phrases and words, avoiding slang where possible.

“I understand, but I’m sure it’s easier for us to communicate in Russian rather than in English,” I threw in some logic in an attempt to sway his mind.

Suddenly he stopped, looked me right in the eye and asked, “Are you Ukrainian?”

I rolled my eyes.

“Yes, I was born here.”

“Where?”

“In the South.”

Even though I didn’t need to be putting up with interrogation, he was a friend of a friend, so I felt obliged to at least see this through.

“And your parents?”

“Same. And my grandparents too.”

“Then, why don’t you speak Ukrainian?”

“Because when I lived there the only spoken language was Russian. Anything else you need to know?”

“Just remember that you’re in Ukraine — not Russia — so don’t speak Russian here,” he seemed satisfied with my answers but still needed to reinforce his point.

Long before deciding to visit Ukraine, others warned me about people like this, especially from this region.

During Soviet times it was common for Russian speakers to be flatly ignored, but ever since the collapse things have greatly improved. Money was more important than petty nationalism, and most of it came from rich Russian tourists or Ukrainians from predominantly Russian-speaking parts.

Where else in the world can one’s identity be scrutinized so much? A Colombian returning to Colombia after living abroad would be greeted with open arms. Same for Brazilian or pretty much any nationality.

Not in Ukraine.

An hour into the tour we passed another stature of Shevchenko, Ukraine’s most famous writer and poet.

After explaining a bit about the statue he switched topics and decided to tell me a story.

“Once there was a young woman and she fell in love with a Russian soldier. Then she had a baby. But the soldier didn’t want to do anything with her, so he left her. That’s why I hate Russians and will never speak Russian.”

Andrei probably used up all his English knowledge telling the story.

“How do you know this?” I was curious who was feeding him this propaganda.

“Shevchenko wrote about this and besides everyone says it’s true,” Andrei confidently answered in his broken English.

I stood there speechless. I froze, my mind was utterly blank. I was face to face with prejudice on a level that I haven’t really experienced during my travels.

I’ve seen rivalries between Argentinians and Brazilians; between Mexicans and Guatemalans; between French and English. Oh, and maybe Colombians don’t like Venezuelans. But I’ve never met a Brazilian who hated Argentinians so hard it made his blood boil. Those were all trivial compared with what I was dealing here.

I also didn’t know what to feel. I didn’t know whether to be angry or have pity for this poor excuse for a human being who possessed so much hate for the mighty neighbor in the north and heck knows whom else.

I understood that I was in Ukraine and relations with Russia weren’t always the best.

75-year-old bitter old man who had to fight the Russians? Sure, that’s understandable.

24-year-old seemingly normal and intelligent young man? Didn’t make much sense.

I had come face-to-face with such hate not in USA, not in some random South American country, but in my own homeland. Maybe it wasn’t my country anymore. I sure didn’t feel welcome.

For the rest of my stay in Lvov, I made sure to speak Russian everywhere – in restaurants, cafes, and bars. I enjoyed it; it made me feel superior on some superficial level.

But the real gratification came when I left this unwelcoming region for the capital.

At last, things were how I imagined them to be: the people were courteous and intelligent, and the only thing that mattered was finding a common language for interaction – regardless whether it was Ukrainian, Russian, or even, in some rare cases, English.

Oh, and the women aren’t even that pretty in Western Ukraine – the best looking ones come from the South, not very far from where this “Ukrainian” was born.

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Yury

I’m from Ukraine too (but Russian speaking).

Sounds like you met a nationalist! There’s a lot of them in the West.

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Maverick

Yep, the other parts of Ukraine were completely normal.

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Joe

I don’t know anything about Ukraine but interesting perspective
coming from a Ukrainian himself.

Thanks for sharing.

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G

i would’ve decked that mofo out the minute he started frontin’ me like that.

you’re one patient mofo.

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Maverick

Ha. I was patient; I wanted to know where he was getting his beliefs from.

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Peter

Ok, but what about the women? Skip West and go South?

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V

This douche needs to be given a formal history lesson starting with 9th century era of Kievan Rus vs looking at what happened in the last 100 years under the Soviet Union. Chances are he would hate Poland as much as his northern neighbor if he looked at all the history facts. But this is coming from a Russian, so i may not “understand”.

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Maverick

“But this is coming from a Russian, so i may not “understand”.”

Yep, even I have problems “understanding”

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Dawson

fascinating stuff…never knew that Russian is so common in Ukraine.

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Maverick

It’s very common, yeah — more so than, for example, the Baltics, where Russian is dying.

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ASF

Great cultural insights. This Ukrainian guy is like an American SWPL, who has beliefs handed down to him.

Do you ever post on RooshV? Love your work/writing.

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Maverick

Nice comparison. True.

I come there from time to time.

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dasm

I think it’s a sensitive case. After so many years of suppression (literature, music, etc.). The real Ukranian identity is Ukranian right? and not Russian. Most people in the west speak both, while the Russian speakers don’t speak Ukranian.

I agree that Odessa has more beautifil woman than L’viv.

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Maverick

“Most people in the west speak both, while the Russian speakers don’t speak Ukranian.”

Well, it’s ALL Ukrainians really. The difference is that most of those Ukrainians speak Russian as their daily language in all parts except the West (where they speak Ukrainian).

Odessa is a nice city.

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Ray

Glad the capital (KIev) was better to you than Western Ukraine.

Thx for writing this down. Eye-opening stuff.

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DC Phil

Hmmm, this is interesting fodder for conversation should I meet more Ukrainians in the future, especially women. It’s not really that surprising to hear it coming from a guy. If it came from a woman, then I think it would be quite different.

As an American, I’ve never had the problem of someone criticizing me for speaking another language that they considered “imperialistic” or something along those lines. Even back in the 90s, when I lived overseas for a time, nearly everyone was overjoyed to have a chance to practice speaking English with me. In that respect, it makes me one of the lucky ones, to be a native speaker of the 21st century world’s lingua franca.

On the other hand, being that closed-minded as this guy was really gives one cause for pause.

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Maverick

“If it came from a woman, then I think it would be quite different.”

Yeah, absolutely. The women are much more relaxed about such issues.

“As an American, I’ve never had the problem of someone criticizing me for speaking another language that they considered “imperialistic” or something along those lines.”

English is an “imperialistic” language in like half the world, but people don’t mind speaking it–except, of course, the French :)

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Joel

“At last, things were how I imagined them to be: the people were courteous and intelligent, and the only thing that mattered was finding a common language for interaction”

Courteous?! In Ukraine? I love Ukraine, but customer service there always leaves a lot to be desired.

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Maverick

True, although Kiev is much better than some other regions, especially in the West and South.

I agree, though, “customer service” and “Ukraine” should never be used in the same sentence.

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Joel

Yikes.. do they spit in your face in the West and South? … I’m assuming you’re talking about the south outside of Sebastapol… because there, people will speak Russian to me and not think it’s a big deal.

Maverick… didn’t you ever see the movie “Everything is illuminated?” Had you seen it, you would’ve known better.. :-p

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Maverick

Crimea (where Sevastopol is) will always be Russian speaking. It’s mostly inhabited by Tatars and Russians anyway.

And no they won’t spit in your face, but the service leaves A LOT to be desired :)

Yeah, I saw the movie. That’s EXACTLY how it is. Great movie, too.

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Russian speaker from Ukraine

WTF with the “mighty neighty” neighbour passage? Wouldn’t you respect him more for standing up rather then kneeling before Russia? After all Ukrainians have the right to speak their language and prove a point to guys like you and Russian visitors.

You have a choice to speak in English or to learn Ukrainian (which is fucken easy for you actually) and Andrei offered you both options. What’s the big deal?

There are a lot of russian speaking Ukrainians in Kyiv (not Kiev) where I live and we are slowly leaning towards ukrainiang language.

Out of principle I would answer in Ukrainian to a Russian tourists. Fuck those superior pigs. It doesn’t concern american tourists that speak in broken russian though cos they dont know any better :)

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Ukrainian speaker from Canada

Russian speaker from Ukraine wrote: “Out of principle I would answer in Ukrainian to a Russian tourists” —

That’s not out of principle. This is out of stupidity and immaturity. However, see me there speaking Russian to you with a few large bills in my hand – you will speak whatever I want, even Vietnamese or Quebec perverted French if it comes to that, you fucking chauvinist.

Ukrainian West will remain a fucking province unless they overcome their provincialism (in East European meaning of that) and become part of the solution instead of being part of the problem. Russia does not want to invade you, guys. Russia is too busy figuring out how to save Siberia from Chinese crawling invasion-immigration. Relax and take it easy, “Russian speaker from Ukraine”.

Maverick, great article, dude!

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Philya

Dear MaverickTraveler,
“When in Rome do as Romans do”.

Ukrainian language is quite a sensitive issue. I agree that the reason your friend’s friend gave is not a good one, first time I ever hear such stupid things… But on the other hand it is very important to respect the Ukrainian language and popularize it in Ukraine. I, myself, come from Russian-speaking part of Ukraine, but transformed myself to Ukrainian language. Why? Because it is the true language of Ukrainian people. It is the language that our grand grandparents spoke, even in your “southern region”. Visit random village in your region and you will realize that most people speak Ukrainian…..it’s how “true Ukraine” used to be before USSR. It is very important that we respect our true language and make it popular again, otherwise it will die! This is why it is so important to speak Ukrainian and is a sensitive issue in our country…. It’s just a matter of respecting your roots!

But I agree, if you are a tourist and only speak Russian, it is quite rude to be so over-nationalistic. It is common sense to use the language the tourist prefers to speak….. But it’s when you’re a tourist…. But when you meet Ukrainian people who are born, raised and currently lives in Ukraine – that do not know their own language, well, then we have a problem… Don’t you agree with me?

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